EXCLUSIVE: Interview with Prov. Finance Chair Igliozzi on City's Fiscal Future

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EXCLUSIVE: Interview with Prov. Finance Chair Igliozzi on City's Fiscal Future

GoLocalProv.com caught up with Providence City Council Finance Chair John Igliozzi, to ask him about the state of the city, the proposed firefighter contract -- and outstanding legal issues -- and the prospect of bankruptcy. 

Q: It is unprecedented for the City to enter into a five-year contract — are you concerned that this unfairly locks the next Mayor into a potentially unaffordable agreement?

A. The administration’s proposed five-year contract with the firefighters’ union would indeed be precedent-setting. Although state law allows cities and towns to engage in five-year labor contracts, the exception is only available to municipalities with pension systems in critical status, and the law implies that pension reform should be included in those contracts. The city’s contract with its firefighters will set the tone for future contracts; if the city enters into a five-year contract without pension reform, other unions will expect the same. Therefore, the city would foreclose on its ability to achieve pension reform for many years.  

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Q. How can the Mayor expect the Council to approve an agreement with the firefighters when literally tens of millions in overtime costs are unresolved and pending before Judge Williams?

A. The administration hasn’t submitted a fiscal note or any financial backup to the City Council to substantiate its claim that the proposed contract will provide savings to the city. Firefighters haven’t seen the proposed contract or voted on it, yet the administration wants the Council’s blind support without full disclosure. The City Council Finance Committee is unable to begin the vetting process in earnest until the administration provides more information about the proposed contract’s financial impact. According to the Council’s internal auditor, the city has an outstanding liability of approximately $10 million in firefighter overtime. This outstanding liability would potentially negate any savings the administration claims its proposed contract will provide.  The administration has acknowledged that whether or not this contract is approved, the city will not achieve overtime savings. In fact, the administration admitted that in this fiscal year alone, the city will spend an additional $8.7 million more in overtime than it planned for.

Q. Are you worried that between long-term unfunded and healthcare costs — more than $1 billion in obligations — that this is just another “kick-the-can” down the road contract?

A. The city’s pension system is 26% funded with an unfunded liability of approximately $1 billion.  In the proposed five-year contract, the administration wants to utilize a state law provision that is available to cities with pension systems in critical status. By adopting this provision, the administration is admitting that the system is in crisis. What’s alarming is that they’re acknowledging the situation without leveraging state law to mitigate the pension problem.  The city should be doing everything it can today to ensure better financial footing for tomorrow.

Q. Mayor Elorza and his team seem overwhelmed by some of these challenges, do you have any sense there is a long-term fiscal strategy to avoid bankruptcy?

A. Solutions are certainly available. Resolving the city’s critical financial challenges requires sound leadership and removing politics from the decision-making process to create a comprehensive plan for reform.    

Q. Let me ask it another way — because this administration is failing to address the big issues — will the City be forced to bankruptcy in the next few years?

A. The last thing the state wants is for its capital city to file for bankruptcy. To prevent that, the state and the city’s nonprofits and other stakeholders could force the city into a ten-year financial reform plan to get the city on better financial ground. Under a comprehensive reform plan, stakeholders would attach financial conditions to the resources they provide to the city. The city would have to achieve benchmarks and report to its stakeholders; if the city didn’t meet those benchmarks, it could incur penalties. This would challenge city leaders to achieve meaningful financial reforms that address the city’s short-term and long-term problems.


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